New meeting place

Palouse Free Thinkers will be moving to Inland Oasis for the 1st Sunday of the month meetings. Meetings will be from 11:30am-1:30pm. The address is 730 W Pullman Rd. #3, Moscow, behind Big Smoke.

Suggested donation of $5.00 or food for the food bank. Bring your own munchies and if you want to bring more for the group that would be great.

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  • Meeting notes from Mar 17, 2024

    In a one off for this year the meeting was held at Rico’s pub in Pullman. While the location was not particularly busy, our party of 9 was large enough to get us access to the downstairs “music room”. We had 3 new members and six returning members. While we were hindered in our discussion by the piped in Irish music, we did manage to hit the following topics.

    The discussion started off with a mini lecture and discussion of the concept of gravity not being a force. There was quite a bit of head scratching over this. Next a concern over education and the plight of the Montessori school in Pullman was described, along with questions about public funding of religious and non-religious charter schools. This, of course, lead to a discussion of Christian nationalism as a rewriting of American history and ideals to be the exact opposite of what was really happening at the time. Mention was made of a current organized attempt to replace the constitution with a different document.

    Discussion moved to the Greek and Roman foundations of the American republic and liberalism. A short digression was made to Plato’s Republic and his evaluation of different types of government. I went ahead and put a (copyright free) copy on the website, here: https://palousefreethinkers.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Republic-1645717413.pdf . Mention was made of early American philosophy and free thinkers like Emerson and Thoreau who were both active before the civil war. I believe all of these things deserve more deliberate investigation (Sorry, my opinion…)

    A mention was made (not for the first time in this group) of a need for a new myths, stories or other viral ideas to counter the Xtian nationalist movement and conservatism in general. Adam Smith was mentioned in a discussion of the original ideology of free market capitalism as opposed to the reality of its historical flaws.

    There is a lot of content here that could be covered in more depth than simply our recollections and off the cuff comments. Anyone who would like to lead a meeting covering any of these topics is encouraged to volunteer.

  • Meeting notes from Feb. 18, 2024

    Today’s meeting was held in Pullman at Neil’s ice cream and coffee shop. There were 12 people in attendence, including 4 who hadn’t attended before. 3 of these had travelled from outside the Pullman/Moscow metro area to join us.

    We started the meeting with a quick synopsis of the history of the current group and it’s connection with the humanists of the palouse.
    Then: we discussed an article in the Lewiston paper about how the USA is not founded on Christian principles and branched out from there to the following topics, which all got at least some discussion before branching out to the other topics, including:
    Israel current and ancient roots/mythology
    Water issues on the palouse, especially Pullman
    Political action and being ignored by politicians at all levels of government
    Rural healthcare issues compounded by corporate and catholic ownership of hospitals, including insurance and access
    Broadcasting monopolies and persistent political bias, also especially in rural areas
    How political upheavals have affected lives, including bringing many of our ancestors to the USA.
    Somewhere in there we introduced ourselves by first name, not needing to go into prolonged introductions.

    There were other side discussions after the meeting, and the discussions were orderly and respectful.

  • notes from Feb 4, 2024 meeting

    Freethinker Meeting Jan 21, 2024
    Inland Oasis
    13 regular and new members were present.
    Introductions were made to learn about new attendees and refresh names of all.

    Topic was dealing with the podcast on testosterone from This American Life. Levels of testosterone change in response to environmental conditions, age, activity, etc. High vs low levels have been implicated
    in/correlated with antisocial behavior, violence, professional gain, bone density etc. If fluctuating hormones can have such an impact, how does this change our ideas of free will?

    What is free will: does the soul make decisions or are we able to make decisions independent of our environment? Do we have a choice: emotional brain versus rational brain? Is the emotional brain the same as our animal brain? We know so little about the brain that it will be difficult to answer these questions until we have more information

    We drifted to a discussion on theoretical computer science and a discussion of sets and set theory. Russell’s Paradox (short explanation here: https://youtu.be/DHNJvualo6I?si=JwrELHYLXVUhP7Ig) and Gödel’s incompleteness theorem.

    Short discussions on education and literacy, over-consumption, population demographics and the fate of humans when the population declines. What is contributing to the declining birth rate? We know quite a bit (more educated women, couples with careers, less need for children as part of the family workforce). However, is there something that we are missing? Are there compounds (at pheromone levels) produced by the population as the density increases and does this inhibit the desire to reproduce? Are we aware of the changing climate conditions at a biological level and does this impact our desire or make us fearful of perpetuating the species?
    Mouse utopia experiment (the behavioral sink) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink generated discussion: Norway rats allowed to grow with plenty of food and resources became less inclined to
    reproduce and more inclined to fight. Have we entered the behavioral sink phase? (We are not eating our children yet)